I would say that El Dorado would represent the best of all worlds. It is the fantasy word that Candide has dreamed so much about. It is kind wierd because the last time I saw something about El Dorado, itwas a ovie. Two characters went through a lot of dangerous obstacles and it took a long time for those two characters to get there. It similar to the story because Cacambo and Candide went through a lot to get to El Dorado. It goes well with the inference that Candide made in chapter 10. He belived that the New World will be the best of all worlds.
I also hae a question for Chapter 16. Did anyone find any research on The Oreiilons?
~Shadeyrack I was also researching for Oreillons; what I found was that it was French for Mumps. Mumps is a viral disease of the humans, caused by the mumps virus; usually the swelling of the salivary glands. I'm not completely sure if this relates to the people, but Voltaire might be satirizing something through the use of the name Oreillons for those people.
What I have thought was that Voltaire used the name Oreillons for those people, is maybe to represent society; such as representing Leibniz. The fact the Oreillons are dressed naked, and plays with animals, and also hate the Jesuit; I figured Voltaire might be trying to satirize the people that go against the church. Voltaire is trying to show how stupid those people are, and how ridiculous they are. He is representing those people who go against the church as Oreillons, and they dress naked, and believes in Aegipan; this just shows how the people who are going against the church, such as Leibniz himself, are just crazy and stupid for thinking of fantasy stories.
The part in chapter 16, when the two women were playing with their "lover", monkeys; it shows that Voltaire is satirizing how the people such as Leibniz, believe in fantasy, and stupid ideas, such as "all is for the best".
This is how I found it to be, I'm not totally confident though.
Jia- Thanks for the in dept explanation. That was something. Thanks for the research. I think you do have a point when you relate leibniz's ideas and those of the Oriellons. Good Job.
>Mona< Fauns: one of the rural gods that are represented as men with ears, horns, tails, and with a pair of hind legs like a goat http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fauns Satyrs: one of the woodland gods that are represented as part human, horse, and sometimes as goat http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Satyrs
Cetaur: Half horse, Half man Greek mythology Fauns: small deer Satyr: Mythological creature, combination of Pan and Dionysus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr
Eldorado symbolizes a utopia. There is no religious genocides such as the Inquisition in Eldorado (Voltaire 63). Eldorado has no prisons or any courts (Voltaire 64). Basically, Eldorado is a perfect world.
Chapter 16:
-Jia Wen Cao
I disagree with what you stated about how Voltaire is using the Oreillons to compare it with Leibniz. Voltaire is satirizing Leibniz's philosophy of optimism, but not Leibniz himself.
Research:
The Oreillon's attitude towards the Jesuit show the native people of the New World does not believe the Jesuits are fighting for the native people to revolt against the Spanish government. Instead, the Jesuits are exploiting the rebellion to just gain wealth and power away from the government.
" ' So that's how the wind lies!' " (Voltaire 88). Vanderdendur speaks this quote in chapter 19. Is this an exaggeration, understatement, both, or neither? Explain your response please!
Thank you Robert for responding to my post. =]
In chapter twenty, what does Cape of Good Hope mean? What is being satirized in chapter twenty and twenty-one?
Monsieur Vanderdendur: Owner of the Negro Slave, Monsieur Vanderdendur cut off the slave's leg when he tried to run away. He swindles Candide, steals his red sheep, but meets a suitable end when his ship is attacked by pirates. http://www.bookrags.com/notes/can/CHR.htm#17
does any one have -warped logic for chapters :17 -improbable situations for chapters: 18,20 -understatement for chapters: 17,16 -exaggeration for chapters: 20 - riduclous names for all the chapters? Because as far as i looked through all the chapters i didn't catched anything
Kayla I have to disagree with you because when he was first introduced it was in a Dutch area. Then in the future chapters it said that he was a Dutch priate.
I'm not to sure either, I am sorry that I can't help. I think it is a ridiculous name so I am going to write it down, and then I am going to double check tomorrow(:
Kevin- For chapter 17 I beleive Voltaire used the village El dorado to satirize optimisim. El dorado means an imaginary place of great wealth and opportunity. This village is perfect to the point where even Candide seeks real world imperfections. Candide is unsatisfied with a place that according to him was "the best of all possible worlds" this suggests that all of the ideas of optimisim are imaginary just like El dorado.
I would say that El Dorado would represent the best of all worlds. It is the fantasy word that Candide has dreamed so much about. It is kind wierd because the last time I saw something about El Dorado, itwas a ovie. Two characters went through a lot of dangerous obstacles and it took a long time for those two characters to get there. It similar to the story because Cacambo and Candide went through a lot to get to El Dorado. It goes well with the inference that Candide made in chapter 10. He belived that the New World will be the best of all worlds.
ReplyDeleteI also hae a question for Chapter 16. Did anyone find any research on The Oreiilons?
Chapter 16
ReplyDelete~Shadeyrack
I was also researching for Oreillons; what I found was that it was French for Mumps. Mumps is a viral disease of the humans, caused by the mumps virus; usually the swelling of the salivary glands.
I'm not completely sure if this relates to the people, but Voltaire might be satirizing something through the use of the name Oreillons for those people.
What I have thought was that Voltaire used the name Oreillons for those people, is maybe to represent society; such as representing Leibniz. The fact the Oreillons are dressed naked, and plays with animals, and also hate the Jesuit; I figured Voltaire might be trying to satirize the people that go against the church. Voltaire is trying to show how stupid those people are, and how ridiculous they are. He is representing those people who go against the church as Oreillons, and they dress naked, and believes in Aegipan; this just shows how the people who are going against the church, such as Leibniz himself, are just crazy and stupid for thinking of fantasy stories.
The part in chapter 16, when the two women were playing with their "lover", monkeys; it shows that Voltaire is satirizing how the people such as Leibniz, believe in fantasy, and stupid ideas, such as "all is for the best".
This is how I found it to be, I'm not totally confident though.
Jia-
ReplyDeleteThanks for the in dept explanation. That was something. Thanks for the research. I think you do have a point when you relate leibniz's ideas and those of the Oriellons. Good Job.
Questions for chapter:
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What is Voltaire satirizing in chapter 16?
Why did Candide give up hope when he was tied up?
17
Why are Candide and Cacambo fed roasted monkeys and other exotic foods?
18
Why do the people of Eldorado feel they do not need anything from god?
Why is Candide considered the master of Cacambo?
19
Why does Candide need someone to accompany him on his journey?
20
What does Voltaire satirize in chapter 20?
Does Voltaire satirize evil?
21
Why does Martin continue to follow Candide? Does he not have any goals like Candide to find Lady Cunegonde?
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ReplyDeletedoes anyone know what centaurs, fauns, and satyrs in chapter 16?
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ReplyDeleteFauns: one of the rural gods that are represented as men with ears, horns, tails, and with a pair of hind legs like a goat
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fauns
Satyrs: one of the woodland gods that are represented as part human, horse, and sometimes as goat
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Satyrs
does anyone know what Journal de Trevoux is?
does anyone know what Voltaire is satirizing in chapter 16?
ReplyDeleteThank you Denise!!
ReplyDeleteEl dorado is supposedly made of all gold.
ReplyDeleteCetaur: Half horse, Half man Greek mythology
Fauns: small deer
Satyr: Mythological creature, combination of Pan and Dionysus.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satyr
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ReplyDeleteDenise-
ReplyDeleteLook at the back pages of the yellow book, page 121. There it will tell you what Journal de Trevoux means.
Eldorado symbolizes a utopia. There is no religious genocides such as the Inquisition in Eldorado (Voltaire 63). Eldorado has no prisons or any courts (Voltaire 64). Basically, Eldorado is a perfect world.
ReplyDeleteChapter 16:
-Jia Wen Cao
I disagree with what you stated about how Voltaire is using the Oreillons to compare it with Leibniz. Voltaire is satirizing Leibniz's philosophy of optimism, but not Leibniz himself.
Research:
The Oreillon's attitude towards the Jesuit show the native people of the New World does not believe the Jesuits are fighting for the native people to revolt against the Spanish government. Instead, the Jesuits are exploiting the rebellion to just gain wealth and power away from the government.
Source :
http://www.sparknotes.com/lit/candide/section4.rhtml
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ReplyDeletedoes anyone know what is being satired in all the chapters? because im really confused
ReplyDeleteyour welcome Mona!
ReplyDeleteThank you Danny but umm i have the green book:-\ thanks anyway =)
" ' So that's how the wind lies!' " (Voltaire 88). Vanderdendur speaks this quote in chapter 19. Is this an exaggeration, understatement, both, or neither? Explain your response please!
ReplyDeleteThank you Robert for responding to my post. =]
In chapter twenty, what does Cape of Good Hope mean?
What is being satirized in chapter twenty and twenty-one?
hey everyone, I need help understanding what is being satirized in chapter 19, could someone help me?
ReplyDeleteChapter19- Does any one know what the name Mynheer Vanderdendur means?
ReplyDeletethanks alicia :D , I was thinking that but I wasn't sure.
ReplyDelete>alicia<
ReplyDeletethis is what i put for this:
Monsieur Vanderdendur: Owner of the Negro Slave, Monsieur Vanderdendur cut off the slave's leg when he tried to run away. He swindles Candide, steals his red sheep, but meets a suitable end when his ship is attacked by pirates.
http://www.bookrags.com/notes/can/CHR.htm#17
does any one have
-warped logic for chapters :17
-improbable situations for chapters: 18,20
-understatement for chapters: 17,16
-exaggeration for chapters: 20
- riduclous names for all the chapters?
Because as far as i looked through all the chapters i didn't catched anything
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ReplyDeleteThanks to Denise and no problem to Kayla! =D
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know what is being satirized in chapter 20 and 21?
Did anyone find any understatements in chapter 21?
ReplyDeleteKayla I have to disagree with you because when he was first introduced it was in a Dutch area. Then in the future chapters it said that he was a Dutch priate.
ReplyDeleteoh right, I forgot thanks danny, it just sounded German to me(:
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ReplyDeleteI really don't know if it would be considered but maybe. what do the other guys think?
ReplyDeletewell,
ReplyDeleteI'm not really sure if Mynheer Vanderdendur would be considered as a ridiculous name. But it might. I'm just not sure why =\
I'm really not so sure =\
ReplyDeleteI'm not to sure either, I am sorry that I can't help. I think it is a ridiculous name so I am going to write it down, and then I am going to double check tomorrow(:
ReplyDeleteYour welcome =D
ReplyDeletecan anoyone tell me what is beign satirized in chapter 17?
ReplyDeleteKevin-
ReplyDeleteFor chapter 17 I beleive Voltaire used the village El dorado to satirize optimisim. El dorado means an imaginary place of great wealth and opportunity. This village is perfect to the point where even Candide seeks real world imperfections. Candide is unsatisfied with a place that according to him was "the best of all possible worlds" this suggests that all of the ideas of optimisim are imaginary just like El dorado.